I think the difference is men in the islamic faith/tradition demand ALL women to wear that garment, where as nuns chose that life of faith and the wearing of the garments.
im not sure why the nuns wear what they do but the women of islam wear it to hide themselves from the men?
*Disclaimer, this is from my limited knowledge of the subject, maybe someone could clarify?
Kristina
There is no such difference. Just some western Prejudice that Muslim women in hijaab is oppressed while a nun covers herself cuz she is obedient to her faith.
Double Standard!!!
@ Kristina!
Muslim women wears hijaab with her own will, and she really feels proud in it. Ur judgment is unreal.
I must say I know little about why Muslim women wear the hijaab…but @ Shaheen, a question…what if she does not want to wear it, is that ok too?
The Nun covers herself as part of her vocation…she has to, she knows that is all part of being a nun, so the option not to cover her self does not come up…
Who is Ur?
i wasn’t making a judgement, see the ‘i think’ at the beginning of the sentence, and i asked if someone could clarify.
i ask, just as refinedone does,
if a muslin women does not want to wear the hijaab, is this ok with her religion and with the men of her faith?
i know alot of nuns who don’t wear the garb in everyday life, but at work or worship they do.
is this the same with muslim women?
I’m sorry if I offended you, Shaheen.
Also, do you make a judgement for all muslim women when you say ”Muslim women wears hijaab with her own will, and she really feels proud in it.” ?
Kristina
I just looked at the title again and realized it say WHY not WHAT.
why do people see the covering of the women as different?
because of the media, media portrays the muslim women and the religion with apprehension and danger.
why do people see christians in the light they do?
the media.
most christians are not faith healers, greedy, flashy, murderous, stupid people.
most of us just try to live our lives ‘normally’ day to day, trying our best to obey our Lord and be kind. But alas we are sinners still with only our faith in a redeemer to help see our way in the fallen world.
I’m sure its the same with muslims, the media portrays (to the western world) only the bad stuff that happens with only a small percent of the population.
they don’t ever show the faithful just trying to live their lives.
so media and ignorance of the real lives of the portrayed.
kristina
I also believe that you weren’t making a “judgement” with your 1st comment… Shaheen has a very definitive way in which she sees this issue, which can lead to a misunderstanding of the “intent” of an enquiry.
In regards to the media, I agree that it is “one” factor which influences how we see certain aspects of the world. It is a part, a BIG part of how our culture, i.e. eurocentric/western culture, views others in the world at large. Education (or lack thereof), our upbringing, political and religious “conditioning” are also huge factors which influence what we believe about or how we “see” others.
I think I COULD see apprehension and danger in both on a historical basis. If anyone gets the chance watch the movie Kingdom of Heaven if you haven’t seen it already. You will see this combat between each of these groups shown here is quite old. I think I COULD see comfort and love on a “religious” basis as each worship the God of Abraham.
Asa, my friend, I’ve tagged you over at my blog. Visit me and please comply. Thank Free Slave for this. (smile) I’ve never been tagged before, but he got me. On the other hand, I’m sure you have been tagged before. But because I’m trying to know you better, I thought I would include you in my little circle of 8 folks to hit up.
Kristina!
well if its not ur judgement then of course its the image media has brought up to u.
Islam is a very practical religion,and every practicing Muslim women covers herself from other men its a part of her modesty. It is the order of Allah.
and Yes ask any Muslim woman who wears Hijaab, even i am very proud of it 🙂
No one has imposed it on me, its just the order of Allah and protection for me, and i enjoyed it.
Western media is responsible for the negative propaganda of Islam and Veil.
I don’t think they have a choice to wear the hijaab. If a western women went to their country they would have to at least cover their heads. However, when they come to the west, they insist that they must wear the hijaab, why? Should they not conform to the western culture, like western women must conform to their culture when in their countries?
i see both images as beautiful IF they are meant to bring joy and passion to religion. if they are used for extremism or they are used to force people to agree to one line of thinking, then I do not support them.
religion is a like a dove. we are the ones who can sometimes morph it into a vulture if we are not careful.
July 9, 2007 at 12:05 am
I think the difference is men in the islamic faith/tradition demand ALL women to wear that garment, where as nuns chose that life of faith and the wearing of the garments.
im not sure why the nuns wear what they do but the women of islam wear it to hide themselves from the men?
*Disclaimer, this is from my limited knowledge of the subject, maybe someone could clarify?
Kristina
July 9, 2007 at 7:35 am
There is no such difference. Just some western Prejudice that Muslim women in hijaab is oppressed while a nun covers herself cuz she is obedient to her faith.
Double Standard!!!
@ Kristina!
Muslim women wears hijaab with her own will, and she really feels proud in it. Ur judgment is unreal.
July 9, 2007 at 9:54 am
I must say I know little about why Muslim women wear the hijaab…but @ Shaheen, a question…what if she does not want to wear it, is that ok too?
The Nun covers herself as part of her vocation…she has to, she knows that is all part of being a nun, so the option not to cover her self does not come up…
July 9, 2007 at 10:49 am
Who is Ur?
i wasn’t making a judgement, see the ‘i think’ at the beginning of the sentence, and i asked if someone could clarify.
i ask, just as refinedone does,
if a muslin women does not want to wear the hijaab, is this ok with her religion and with the men of her faith?
i know alot of nuns who don’t wear the garb in everyday life, but at work or worship they do.
is this the same with muslim women?
I’m sorry if I offended you, Shaheen.
Also, do you make a judgement for all muslim women when you say ”Muslim women wears hijaab with her own will, and she really feels proud in it.” ?
Kristina
July 9, 2007 at 11:16 am
I just looked at the title again and realized it say WHY not WHAT.
why do people see the covering of the women as different?
because of the media, media portrays the muslim women and the religion with apprehension and danger.
why do people see christians in the light they do?
the media.
most christians are not faith healers, greedy, flashy, murderous, stupid people.
most of us just try to live our lives ‘normally’ day to day, trying our best to obey our Lord and be kind. But alas we are sinners still with only our faith in a redeemer to help see our way in the fallen world.
I’m sure its the same with muslims, the media portrays (to the western world) only the bad stuff that happens with only a small percent of the population.
they don’t ever show the faithful just trying to live their lives.
so media and ignorance of the real lives of the portrayed.
kristina
July 9, 2007 at 11:35 am
Krislinatin: “Ur” is short for “YOUR”.
I also believe that you weren’t making a “judgement” with your 1st comment… Shaheen has a very definitive way in which she sees this issue, which can lead to a misunderstanding of the “intent” of an enquiry.
In regards to the media, I agree that it is “one” factor which influences how we see certain aspects of the world. It is a part, a BIG part of how our culture, i.e. eurocentric/western culture, views others in the world at large. Education (or lack thereof), our upbringing, political and religious “conditioning” are also huge factors which influence what we believe about or how we “see” others.
July 9, 2007 at 3:21 pm
I think I COULD see apprehension and danger in both on a historical basis. If anyone gets the chance watch the movie Kingdom of Heaven if you haven’t seen it already. You will see this combat between each of these groups shown here is quite old. I think I COULD see comfort and love on a “religious” basis as each worship the God of Abraham.
July 9, 2007 at 3:23 pm
Could we pose the question; Do you see the sameness?
July 9, 2007 at 3:23 pm
OoOOOOOh! Dude can i use these pictures on my blog!?? pweeeesh!!!!
i’ll give you credit etc
July 10, 2007 at 3:36 am
Asa, my friend, I’ve tagged you over at my blog. Visit me and please comply. Thank Free Slave for this. (smile) I’ve never been tagged before, but he got me. On the other hand, I’m sure you have been tagged before. But because I’m trying to know you better, I thought I would include you in my little circle of 8 folks to hit up.
Peace and love,
Angie
July 10, 2007 at 3:47 am
Kristina!
well if its not ur judgement then of course its the image media has brought up to u.
Islam is a very practical religion,and every practicing Muslim women covers herself from other men its a part of her modesty. It is the order of Allah.
and Yes ask any Muslim woman who wears Hijaab, even i am very proud of it 🙂
No one has imposed it on me, its just the order of Allah and protection for me, and i enjoyed it.
Western media is responsible for the negative propaganda of Islam and Veil.
July 10, 2007 at 9:59 am
I don’t think they have a choice to wear the hijaab. If a western women went to their country they would have to at least cover their heads. However, when they come to the west, they insist that they must wear the hijaab, why? Should they not conform to the western culture, like western women must conform to their culture when in their countries?
July 10, 2007 at 2:23 pm
good post Asa.
i see both images as beautiful IF they are meant to bring joy and passion to religion. if they are used for extremism or they are used to force people to agree to one line of thinking, then I do not support them.
religion is a like a dove. we are the ones who can sometimes morph it into a vulture if we are not careful.
July 10, 2007 at 2:24 pm
and i hope no one misconstrues my opinion. both islam and christianity are cool as long as they are not extreme!
July 10, 2007 at 7:21 pm
Salahudin… sure you can use the images… thay aren’t mine…
peace!
August 9, 2007 at 4:38 pm
The same thing.
Muslim women have a personal choice of wearing the headscarf. It dones’t suppress their personality in any way.