Comments on: Would the Southern Baptist Convention Reject Christ Today? http://asabagna.wordpress.com/2007/05/30/would-the-southern-baptist-convention-reject-christ-today/ The Global Perspectives of an Afrocentric Pentecostal. Commentaries on religion, politics, culture, society and life Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:12:57 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Francis L. Holland http://asabagna.wordpress.com/2007/05/30/would-the-southern-baptist-convention-reject-christ-today/#comment-2907 Francis L. Holland Sat, 23 Jun 2007 02:01:48 +0000 http://asabagna.wordpress.com/2007/05/30/would-the-southern-baptist-convention-reject-christ-today/#comment-2907 My father was an alcoholic. I saw what it did to him and I chose not to have that happen to me, so I haven't touched alcohol (or marijuana or any other street drug) since 1986, for over twenty years. I would no sooner advise someone to experiment with alcohol than to experiment with crack. Some will get addicted and some won't but, unfortunately, they won't find out who's who until it's too late. The best policy, for people who value their minds, families, jobs, their freedom and their lives, is just to stay away from the stuff. So, I support the Baptist Convention just as much as I would if they pledge to fight the use of sniffing glue. My father was an alcoholic. I saw what it did to him and I chose not to have that happen to me, so I haven’t touched alcohol (or marijuana or any other street drug) since 1986, for over twenty years.

I would no sooner advise someone to experiment with alcohol than to experiment with crack. Some will get addicted and some won’t but, unfortunately, they won’t find out who’s who until it’s too late.

The best policy, for people who value their minds, families, jobs, their freedom and their lives, is just to stay away from the stuff. So, I support the Baptist Convention just as much as I would if they pledge to fight the use of sniffing glue.

]]> By: Travis James http://asabagna.wordpress.com/2007/05/30/would-the-southern-baptist-convention-reject-christ-today/#comment-1734 Travis James Fri, 01 Jun 2007 00:11:42 +0000 http://asabagna.wordpress.com/2007/05/30/would-the-southern-baptist-convention-reject-christ-today/#comment-1734 I described it as New Testament Christianity only because that is where they got the directive. The Bible is explicitly clear about Christians not drinking for the sake of testimony, especially with leaders in the church. So, is that unreasonable that the SBC make rules for its leaders that are any different. Thanks for putting our site on your blogroll. It's new so we are trying to get the word out. TJS Acts 20:24 tjcontending.wordpress.com I described it as New Testament Christianity only because that is where they got the directive. The Bible is explicitly clear about Christians not drinking for the sake of testimony, especially with leaders in the church. So, is that unreasonable that the SBC make rules for its leaders that are any different.
Thanks for putting our site on your blogroll. It’s new so we are trying to get the word out.
TJS
Acts 20:24
tjcontending.wordpress.com

]]> By: asabagna http://asabagna.wordpress.com/2007/05/30/would-the-southern-baptist-convention-reject-christ-today/#comment-1678 asabagna Thu, 31 May 2007 17:23:54 +0000 http://asabagna.wordpress.com/2007/05/30/would-the-southern-baptist-convention-reject-christ-today/#comment-1678 Travis, I have heard the position that the “wine” referred to was not the “fermented wine” of today and that it was a type of grape juice. I have also heard that the original word used could be translated as being either wine or a type of grape juice. I guess it comes down to belief and most of the people I have heard discuss this issue contend that it was an “alcoholic” form of beverage. So I will go with the majority on this one. Regardless of what it was… I contend that if this position is, as you call it: “New Testament Christianity”… it’s certainly not the type I would want to be associated with. BTW… I checked out your site… interesting… I will certainly put it on my blog reading list. I have also added it to my blogroll under "Spirituality". Travis, I have heard the position that the “wine” referred to was not the “fermented wine” of today and that it was a type of grape juice. I have also heard that the original word used could be translated as being either wine or a type of grape juice. I guess it comes down to belief and most of the people I have heard discuss this issue contend that it was an “alcoholic” form of beverage. So I will go with the majority on this one. Regardless of what it was… I contend that if this position is, as you call it: “New Testament Christianity”… it’s certainly not the type I would want to be associated with.

BTW… I checked out your site… interesting… I will certainly put it on my blog reading list. I have also added it to my blogroll under “Spirituality”.

]]> By: Travis James http://asabagna.wordpress.com/2007/05/30/would-the-southern-baptist-convention-reject-christ-today/#comment-1660 Travis James Thu, 31 May 2007 15:13:35 +0000 http://asabagna.wordpress.com/2007/05/30/would-the-southern-baptist-convention-reject-christ-today/#comment-1660 Wine in Jesus' day was not typically the firmented stuff we think of today. The firmented wine was around, but it was definitely not used as the wedding at Cana. There's even a different word used in the Bible for the wine that was firmented and used as alcohol is today. For instance, when the disciples are accused of being drunk after preaching the gospel (Acts 2:13) and other places when we are told as Christians not to be drunk or be "given to wine" (Romans 14:21; Ephesians 5:18; 1 Timothy 3). Even the word used to describe what Jesus made at the wedding at Cana is different. With that said, I doubt that the SBC would have that big of a problem with the grape juice that Jesus made. To make a resolution that is clearly derived from a Biblical directive is not at all legalism. It's New Testament Christianity. Wine in Jesus’ day was not typically the firmented stuff we think of today. The firmented wine was around, but it was definitely not used as the wedding at Cana. There’s even a different word used in the Bible for the wine that was firmented and used as alcohol is today.
For instance, when the disciples are accused of being drunk after preaching the gospel (Acts 2:13) and other places when we are told as Christians not to be drunk or be “given to wine” (Romans 14:21; Ephesians 5:18; 1 Timothy 3).
Even the word used to describe what Jesus made at the wedding at Cana is different. With that said, I doubt that the SBC would have that big of a problem with the grape juice that Jesus made.
To make a resolution that is clearly derived from a Biblical directive is not at all legalism. It’s New Testament Christianity.

]]> By: Rosedove http://asabagna.wordpress.com/2007/05/30/would-the-southern-baptist-convention-reject-christ-today/#comment-1646 Rosedove Thu, 31 May 2007 13:55:11 +0000 http://asabagna.wordpress.com/2007/05/30/would-the-southern-baptist-convention-reject-christ-today/#comment-1646 Everything in moderation. Self-control is the key. Everything in moderation. Self-control is the key.

]]> By: profacero http://asabagna.wordpress.com/2007/05/30/would-the-southern-baptist-convention-reject-christ-today/#comment-1599 profacero Thu, 31 May 2007 06:16:52 +0000 http://asabagna.wordpress.com/2007/05/30/would-the-southern-baptist-convention-reject-christ-today/#comment-1599 Well, it isn't Biblically based, that's for sure. And Prohibition did not work. And just think of all the energy it will take to implement this. A joke from my more Catholic students: Q: Why, if you are going to take a Southern Baptist fishing with you, should you take *two*? A: Because if you only take one, he'll drink all your beer. Well, it isn’t Biblically based, that’s for sure. And Prohibition did not work. And just think of all the energy it will take to implement this.

A joke from my more Catholic students:
Q: Why, if you are going to take a Southern Baptist fishing with you, should you take *two*?
A: Because if you only take one, he’ll drink all your beer.

]]> By: John Smulo http://asabagna.wordpress.com/2007/05/30/would-the-southern-baptist-convention-reject-christ-today/#comment-1590 John Smulo Thu, 31 May 2007 04:47:40 +0000 http://asabagna.wordpress.com/2007/05/30/would-the-southern-baptist-convention-reject-christ-today/#comment-1590 You know where I stand on this. I think the intentions are good, but the results are legalism. You know where I stand on this. I think the intentions are good, but the results are legalism.

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